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The much anticipated UHP15-PDW Lower/Stock system is finally here. Cross Machine Tool just shipped the first units to Rainier Arms which should be arriving any day. This is a very high quality ambi billet lower that also includes an improved PDW style stock and Cheek Rest with many patent pending improvements. You can use any BCG you want as well which is a nice upgrade. If you are looking for a special lower to build an SBR with, something that not only is better than other designs but very limited in availability as well, this is for you. If you’re trying to build an SBR on a budget, you might as well just keep scrolling. 🙂

Pre-Orders are not usually something that Rainier Arms offers but with the limited availability and huge interest that is what they are offering. This first shipment should be in and shipping out to those who pre-order by June 23rd. Pre-order now at www.RainierArms.com.

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Cross Machine Tool PDW Lower 1

The UHP15PDW Lower receiver features the Integration of a Patent Pending Monolithic adjustable PDW type stock system. This Patent Pending Monolithic stock/lower receiver design is the result of a collaboration between BattleArms Development & Cross Machine Tool. The UHP15PDW lower also includes the Ambi Bolt release & Ambi Mag Release Lever similiar to the UHP15A lower receiver. The Ambi Mag release Lever is designed to work in conjunction with the Standard Mil-Spec Mag catch arm without the requirement of proprietary components for proper function. This mag release lever design provides the user field repair options of the mag catch typically not found with most ambi mag release systems that utilize proprietary mag catch arms. The Ambi Mag Release features a raised fence on 3 sides to protect the mag release from accidental actuation during weapon use. The Bolt release Lever & Mag Release Lever feature aggressive Texturing to ensure proper finger placement & grip during actuation. The ambi bolt release, ambi mag release & buttstock adjustment rods are Black Nitrided for corrosion protection. The Integration of the stock rod system with the lower receiver creates a stonger continuous PDW platform & also allows for the addition of a cheek weld that extends with the buttstock not currently found with bolt on PDW stocks due to the bolt on housing design that extends rearward over the buffer tube.

 -  5 AXIS CNC MACHINED FROM 7075 T6 BILLET
 -  TYPE III CLASS II ANODIZED BLACK
 -  WIRE EDM MAG-WELL PROFILE
 -  .154” DIAMETER REAMED TRIGGER & HAMMER PIN HOLES
 -  MULTI CAL MARKED
 -  INTEGRALLY MACHINED TRIGGER GUARD
 -  3.3oz TUNGSTEN WEIGHTED BUFFER W/SPRING
 -  INDUSTRIES SMOOTHEST WIRE EDM CUT FLARED MAGWELL, COMPATIBLE WITH USGI AND 
    MAGPUL GEN 2/3 MAGAZINES
 -  NO ROLL PINS NEEDED FOR ASSEMBLY
 -  UPPER TENSIONING SCREW
 -  BOLT CATCH ASSEMBLY SCREW
 -  LIFETIME WARRANTY AGAINST MANUFACTURE DEFECTS
 -  AMBI BOLT RELEASE/ HARDWARE
 -  AMBI MAG ARM RELEASE LEVER
 -  PATENENT PENDING INTEGRATED 4 POSITION STOCK WITH 4 INCHES OF PULL
 -  PATENT PENDING PDW STOCK CHEEK WELD
 -  PATENT PENDING PDW INTEGRATED STOCK ROD LINEAR BUSHING GUIDANCE SYSTEM
 -  PATENT PENDING STOCK BALL LOCK MECHANISM
 -  COMPATIBLE WITH STANDARD LOWER PARTS KITS
 -  WEIGHT COMPLETLY ASSEMBLED- 2LBS 4OZ. ( wt. includes standard LPK & grip not 
    included with the UHP15PDW)

http://www.rainierarms.com/uhp15pdw-integrated-lower-system

Our friends at Damage Industries were unable to go to the NRA show this week. Instead of pouting about it, they decided to put together another great sale. Take a look at the information below and get in on the savings at www.DamageIndustriesLLC.com.

**Missed Show Sale** – We had to cancel our plans for the NRA show, so we’re missing out… but you don’t have to miss out! Have some great deals this weekend!

Select Muzzle Devices 50% off, enhanced trigger guards, D-loop swivels, HUGE SAVINGS on Enhanced combat stock kit, pistol buffer tubes all discounted!

http://damageindustriesllc.com/product-category/182?items_per_page=60

Damage Industries NRA Show Sale

Battle Arms Development has just introduced the newest version of their SaberTube and Lightweight Butt Stock combo which uses an included QD End Plate. The first version of the SaberTube and Lightweight Butt Stock did not allow the use of an End Plate and was designed for receivers that had the rear takedown pin detent hole threaded for a set screw. This new version has been redesigned to allow the use of the included QD End Plate and will work on any normal AR-15 lower receiver. This kit includes the SaberTube, BAD-LBS (Lightweight Butt Stock) and a CNC Machined 7075T6 QD End Plate and is available for one week at an Intro Price of $159.95 only at www.REVOLVR.com.

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Battle Arms SaberTube and Lightweight Butt Stock 1

Battle Arms SaberTube and Lightweight Butt Stock 1

Lightweight Receiver Extension/Buffer Tube, End Plate Version for the Lightweight Butt Stock and QD End Plate. All MilSpec Type III Class 2 Hard Anodized Black and made in the USA.

Sabertube Features:
–  Precision CNC from billet 6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum
–  Unique, Lightweight and Functional Dimpled Pattern Design
–  MilSpec Carbine Buffer and Buffer Spring Compatible
–  One size fits most Mid Length Buffer Tube
–  Compatible with BAD-LBS Lightweight Butt Stock Only
–  Lightweight design eliminated the need for Castle Nut
–  Shoulder Cut for End Plate. Compatible with all Mil-Spec Lowers (no captive takedown pin detent spring necessary)
–  Patent Pending QD End Plate Features:
–  Precision CNC from billet 7075T6 Aircraft Grade Aluminum
–  Limited rotation (30deg) QD
Butt Stock Features:
–  Precision CNC from billet 7075T6 Aircraft Grade Aluminum
–  Built-In Non-Rotating QD
–  Lightweight 2.8 Ounces (stock only)
–  Grade 5 Titanium Stock Screw
–  Compatible with SABERTUBE Receiver Extension Only

http://www.revolvr.com/exclusive-sabertube-combo-end-plate-version.html

Here is a Sneak Peek at a joint development between Battle Arms Development and CMT Tactical, the Integral PDW STOCK assembly which is not an add-on option but a monolithic design completely machined into the lower receiver. Coming from someone who owns PDW stock from another manufacturer, I can tell you that this system will pretty much fix all of the issues associated with other PDW style stocks on the market.

The production PDW STOCK Length will come in at under 4.5″ (prototype shown is 5.75″). This Integral PDW STOCK assembly uses a standard bolt carrier and retains the ability to shotgun the upper which is typically not possible with PDW style stocks. It also features some additional improvements such as ultra smooth guid rods with bushing, stainless steel ball bearing rolling and locking mechanism, strong dimpled rod locking positions, stock is lockable in both directions, adjustable/tune able buffer up to H2 weight, built in QD positions, ability to lock back BCG, etc. One of the improvements that I like the most is the fact that it has a cheek rest. I have a PDW style stock WITHOUT a cheek rest and its not what I would call an ideal setup. As you can imagine, this setup has Multiple PATENTS PENDING!

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BAD CMT PDW Stock Prototype 1

BAD CMT PDW Stock Prototype 1

Unique Features/Improvements of this new PDW STOCK/RECEIVER:
1. Lightweight but strong monolithic design from the ground up for the PDW style stock. Less bulk vs add-on versions.
2. Use standard Bolt Carrier, no proprietary carrier (when combined w
ith the new Battle Arms PDW Buffer & Spring System)
3. Ability to shotgun the upper for field service.
4. Stronger & Lightweight dimpled rail design, no large slot cuts in the rail that weakens the stock.
5. Smooth, stainless steel ball bearing like action…wait, it is on ball bearings!
6. Continuous cheek weld!
7. Lockable in both directions
8. Easy single motion latch release, no need to fumble with two hands to get the stock released.
9. Compact, 4.5″ overall length collapsed…about 1″ shorter than the prototype.
10. Ability to lock back BCG.
11. Ability to “Tune” the rifle with different “reciprocating weight” buffers, up to the equivalent of a H2. Normally you have only one choice for proprietary buffer.
12. Quiet locking mechanism for stealth.

They are hoping to release the Integral PDW Lower Receiver and Stock some time this summer so start getting ready now. No pricing information has been released but you can kind of come up with an idea of a number if you understand that you will be buying a lower receiver and PDW stock assembly together. If you would like to keep informed as this product progresses through the final design changes, click on the links below and follow their respective Facebook and Instagram pages closely.

Battle Arms Development Facebook Page
Battle Arms Development Instagram

CMT Tactical Facebook Page
CMT Tactical Instagram

Recently MVB Industries decided to redesign the much sought after but very hard to purchase “PDW” style stock, improving on what were obvious flaws in the design that most people were used to seeing. Their new stock is the MVB ARC stock. One of the main improvements MVB has made with their new ARC stock is the fact that you can use any mil spec BCG you want instead of a proprietary BCG. The benefits of this are pretty obvious such as being able to easily swap out a damaged BCG/Bolt, swapping different caliber uppers that require specific bolts or just to simply use the BCG of your choice.

Other improvements include placing the release button on the side of the shoulder piece itself instead of up closer to the receiver making one hand operation possible. Another enhancement made is the “Buffer Hold” button that allows you to field strip your rifle as you would any other AR. They also improved the installation of the buffer tube portion of the stock as it now has slots machined in to use a 3-prong Castle Nut Wrench to tighten it down instead of requiring a strap wrench. The fit and finish also looks amazing and the stock is made right here in the USA. 

MVB Industries ARC Stock 3

MVB Industries ARC Stock 3

MVB Arc Stock 620This photo by NFA Review Channel

MVB’s original run of these stocks sold out almost immediately which really took them by surprise as they didn’t realize there were so many people looking for a PDW style stock with these enhancements. They have been working hard to do another run and are taking pre-orders right now. This stock is obviously not gonna be cheap but will really serve you well if you want a super compact setup. Get in on the pre-order over at www.MVBIndustries.com.

I still get a big grin on my face whenever I take a look at all of the awesome stuff Battle Arms Development has come out with over the past few months. They have an imagination that most companies could only dream of having. One of their new products that will be available very soon is their new Lightweight Buttstock. It’s a simple, minimalistic, compact and fixed butt stock.

Battle Arms Development Lightweight Buttstock 1

The small size of the butt pad works well to fit into the shoulder pocket and the buffer tube acts as the cheek rest. As I mentioned to someone earlier, its not that this stock is “non-collapsible”. I would say “non-extendable” as it is all the way collapsed to where a collapsable stock would stop at the back of the buffer tube. This will work great for those who like to shoot with their stock all the way collapsed or are using body armor, etc. 

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Battle Arms Development Lightweight Buttstock 1

The Lightweight Buttstock is CNC’d out of solid billet 7075T6 aluminum. This version of the Lightweight Buttstock wraps and clamps down on the keyhole shaped cross section of the carbine buffer tube and secured by a screw and has a built in QD sling attachment as shown in the first picture below. There will be an additional version, also shown below, that will mount to the new “SaberTube” buffer tube that Battle Arms Development will also be releasing very soon.

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Battle Arms Development Lightweight Buttstock 1SaberTube Buffer Tube and Lightweight Buttstock Shown

I personally will be purchasing one of these to give it a try when they come out…like I do with just about any Battle Arms Development product. As far as I know, they have not given any pricing or exact release date but I do know they are coming very soon. Keep an eye on the Battle Arms Development Facebook Page or Battle Arms Development Instagram for more details.

www.BattleArmsDevelopment.com

Tactical Distributors is offering an large selection of Woodland Camo products, including some exclusives from HSGI and B5 Systems with Proper, NorthFace and Mechanix to round out the options. I’ve always been a fan of Woodland Camo. Its a great all around camo and is even still used by some Navy SEAL units. HSGI is offering a wide range of items such as HSGI TACO pouches, Leg Rigs, etc. while B5 Systems is offering their awesome SOPMOD Bravo stock, Handguard and Grip in Woodland Camo as well. There are also coats, pants, hats and gloves. If you’ve been looking for a nice one-stop-shop for Woodland Camo, head on over and checkout the available selection at www.TacticalDistributors.com.

Tactical Distributors Woodland Camo HSGI B5 1

Tactical Distributors Woodland Camo HSGI B5 1

Earlier today, Bravo Company Manufacturing released their much anticipated BCMGUNFIGHTER Stock Mod 0 for purchase. Ever since we started seeing pics of these stocks in use with some of BCM’s industry partners its been on the must have list. The new stock is extremely low profile with an anti-snag design. It also features a new latch system that is more robust than your usual stock latch which will keep your rifles stock functioning correctly after being dropped or “mortaring” during malfunction clearing. 

Another thing that sets the Mod 0 stock apart from the rest is that it is modular. One such feature is the VBOST or Vehicle Born Operations Sling Tab can be added or removed. This tab is for positioning a thick rubber band, bungee or shooters riggers band to secure your sling to the rifle when not in use, especially during vehicle born operations so your sling doesn’t get caught on anything. If you’re expecting a steep price you’ll be pleasantly surprised that these are just $55.95 which is awesome for an all American made stock. Check out the pics and additional details below then head on over to www.BravoCompanyMfg.com to snag one for yourself before they’re all gone. I just purchased one myself.

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The next step in performance carbine stocks.  Its been in development for over a year and being released today by Bravo Company.

The BCMGUNFIGHTER Stock Mod 0.

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The strongest light weight polymer stock for your mil-spec receiver extension is here!

–  New patent pending latch reinvents the stocks interface with a mil-spec receiver extension providing user with superior strength when dropped or mortaring malfunction clearance drills.

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–  Snag free Design. No sharp edges prevent tangling of rifle with shooters sling, molle gear, or other kit.

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–  Modular VBOST (Vehicle Borne Operations Sling Tab) – This tab interfaces with the shooters riggers band or bungee to secure the shooters sling against the stock when carbine is not in use. Most common application when operating inside a vehicle.

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–  2 different types of ambidextrous sling mounting options including QD swivel sockets.

–  Integrated color matched rubber butt pad for secure placement in shoulders along with increased durability.

–  Simple modular design. 5 parts and 1 screw allow for modular adaption of future stock options and configurations.

–  Available in Black, Flat Dark Earth, Foliage Green, and Wolf Gray.

http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/stock/

LMT recently introduced their new DMR stocks. Many people have said “They’re just copying the Magpul PRS”, etc but in actuality they’ve made it possible for the 99% of owners who currently have a collapsible stock on their AR to add upgrade to precision style stock similar to a PRS but without the need to change over to a rifle buffer tube, spring and buffer. You can literally take off your collapsible stock, slip on the new LMT DRM stock and have the feel of a fixed precision rifle stock. This saves you the cost and time of swapping receiver extensions and would be pretty awesome for someone who has a single lower receiver but multiple uppers such as an SBR upper and an SPR upper. Weapon Outfitters has the 5.56 version available in-stock right now and at about $30 cheaper than other retailers that I’ve seen. Check out the pics and details below then head on over to www.WeaponOutfitters.com to purchase one for yourself. 

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DMR buttstock assembly for 5.56 rifle fits in mil spec extension tube NOT included – SOPMOD cheek rest for comfort and a better shooting postion – Adjustable by 45 positions in cheek well height and length of pull and two postions on the extension tube. – SOPMOD rubber butt plate reduces felt recoil – Concealed rail for mono-pod attachment – 2 QD sling swivel sockets Collapsed length 9.20″

Our friends over at Tactical Distributors have the new Daniel Defense AR-15 Furniture in-stock and ready to trick out your AR. The new Daniel Defense furniture is not only lightweight and cool looking but they are also very affordable. They have the Stock, Pistol Grip and Vertical Grip in-stock in both Black and Mil Spec+ colors. You can buy all 3 as a kit or you can buy the Stock or Pistol Grip separately. Check out the pics below then head on over to TacticalDistributors.com to snag some for yourself. 

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Marion, WI, – CTK Precision, manufacturer of innovative shooting equipment and gun accessories, is proud to introduce the Ultimate Rail-Pod.

The Ultimate Rail-Pod incorporates all the time tested features of the P3 Ultimate Monopod into a sleek, push button folding design that attaches to any 1913 style Picatinny rail. This unit is ideal for the Magpul PRS stock.

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While not in use, the Ultimate Rail-Pod folds up 90 degrees and locks tight against the buttstock. The unit quickly deploys with the push of a button and locks securely in place.

The two stage telescoping leg provides 360” of movement at 100 yds. The spring-loaded, cam locking 1st stage gets you on target in seconds and locks up tight with the Posi-Lock system. The threaded 2nd stage allows the shooter to fine tune elevation. The rotating Delrin foot rides on a precision roller bearing allowing for smooth, precise, friction-free elevation adjustments without any unwanted movement.

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Ultimate Rail-Pod Specs and Features:
–  Construction: CNC machined from billet 6061 aluminum for high strength and low weight.
–  Finish: Durable MilSpec hard coat anodized
–  Weight: 5.6 oz
–  Height: Low profile design / 1.24” folded / 3.46” in extended position / 6.38” in maximum extended position
–  Mounting: Simple single screw installation on standard Picatinny rails, including Magpul PRS Stocks.
–  Folds 90 degrees with fast and easy push button operation.
–  Locks up tight in extended and folded positions.
–  Two stage telescoping leg provides 360” of movement at 100 yds.
–  Cam locking 1st stage gets you on target in seconds.
–  Fine tune the elevation with the threaded 2nd stage.
–  Spring loaded pop out design gets you on target faster.
–  Posi-Lock System ensures maximum stability.
–  Streamlined profile functions as a bag-rider in the folded position.
–  Made in the USA! Small Made in USA flag
–  Price: $160

Purchase now at www.CTKPrecision.com

A while back I showed you guys a sneak peek at the OIP Lightweight (sub 4-pound) rifle that Battle Arms Development has been working on. At that time the OIP Rifle was in the very early prototype stages but just yesterday Battle Arms Development release a picture of Upper, Lower and Butt Stock that will be used on the new OIP Lightweight Rifle. The OIP Lightweight Rifle will be sold exclusively through Bentwood Gunsmithing. Battle Arms Development will be offering a slightly different version of the Lightweight Components for us DIY AR builders. For instance, according to Battle Arms Development, the Battle Arms version of the lower will have solid sides in the mag well but the recess pockets will be there. You can see the photo and details below. For more information regarding this new project be sure to follow the Battle Arms Development Facebook page

Battle Arms Development OIP Lightweight Rifle Components

Another sneak peek at the OIP Lightweight Upper, Lower, and Butt Stock in a special natural Type III hard anodize color. There are some natural fades from the anodizing process. The color also changes pending on the lighting condition and viewing angle from bronze to FDE to OD Green, Grey, etc. I think we will name it the Chameleon. Bentwood Gunsmithing is going to keep all the finish natural (no dyes) for the raw look.

I think its pretty apparent that I am an equal opportunity rifle stock owner but when it comes to naming a favorite, the B5 Systems Enhanced SOPMOD stock is right up at the top. In the words of Robbie Hart in the Wedding Singer, “I’m a big fan of B5 Systems Stocks. I like them, I use them, I have a few. I keep them on some rifles in my safe. I’d like to put more in that safe.” At least that’s how I remember it. 🙂  

My buddy Wes over at Rogue American Apparel told me about their own logo’d version of the B5 Systems Enhanced SOPMOD stock. Usually RAA focuses on making some awesome Warrior inspired T-shirts, Hats and Patches with a portion of the sales being donated to the Brother’s in Arms Foundation. With this stock, 10% of the proceeds from each stock will be donated to The Raider Project which connects MARSOC/USMC veterans with other veterans to help them transition smoothly, peacefully, successfully into the private sector. 

B5 Systems RAA SOPMOD Stock

This is an awesome cause to support. If you are like me and a big fan of both B5 Systems and RAA, its a no brainer to go with this awesome RAA Logo’d SOPMOD stock. Check them out at www.RogueAmericanApparel.com.

Most people, even with limited gun experience, know the name Hogue. They are pretty synonymous with any type of rubber OverMolded grip for Handguns or Rifles. Recently they decided to add a few more products to their lineup. The recently released products include an AR-15 collapsible stock and a new G-10 AR-15 Trigger Guard. 

The Hogue collapsible stock made from a lightweight reinforced polymer coming in at just 8.3 ounces and features rubber OverMolded sections on the Buttpad and Cheek Rest area. The stock has an Anti Rattle design, 3 different QD sling attachment points and is made in the USA with a starting MSRP of just $59.95. Details and purchasing info at www.HogueStore.com.

Hogue Collapsible AR-15 Stock 1

Hogue Collapsible AR-15 Stock 1

The other recent addition we mentioned is the G-10 Trigger Guard. These Trigger Guards come in the standard Flat style and in a Contoured (aka Winter Trigger Guard) style. G-10 is a very strong lightweight material that is typically used in making knife handles. I’m not so much a huge fan of the straight design but the Contoured ones look pretty neat. These are also available at www.HogueStore.com starting at $24.95 each. 

Hogue AR-15 G-10 Trigger Guard 2

Hogue AR-15 G-10 Trigger Guard 2

Had a nice time sighting in / function testing a couple of my newer AR’s at the range the other day. I typically shoot on private land but bench shooting is a good way to get your guns out, put some rounds through them and make sure they are running good. For the most part there were no issues but any AR builder will tell you it only takes one small issue to throw a monkey wrench in there.

620 CIV Tactical SPR AERO Precision AR Pistol Vortex opticsClick to enlarge

The rifle has an upper built by CIV Tactical using receivers are from Tactical Firearms Solutions. CIV Tactical used their excellent 18″ SPR barrel and Matched Bolt that are known for getting some extremely low sub-MOA results. I used an older Bolt Carrier with the supplied bolt and figured everything would be fine. When the rifle wouldn’t eject a single round I knew there was something going on. Instead of just giving up and using the other AR I brought I decided to try to figure out was the issue was. After trying 2 different lowers, 4 different mags and 2 different types of ammo I decided to try a different BCG. Swapped it out and it ran like a Sewing Machine. I know the Matched Bolt is good as it was test fired with that exact Bolt so it’s pretty obvious I can narrow it down to the Bolt Carrier such as a leaky Gas Key. Looks like I threw in my own monkey wrench.  LoL  

The point is if you think logically through your failures and start eliminating possible issues, you can quite often move past the issues with the rifle and still get in some good trigger time. Oh, and bring some tools and small parts with you when test firing a rifle for the first time.  🙂

The rail on the SPR is a Parallax Tactical FFSSR rail. It also has an ATLAS Bipod with ADM mouth and the Stock is the LUTH-AR MBA-1 that you can buy from www.MidwestPX.com. The AR Pistol is all AERO Precision with an Odin Works 10.5″ Barrel, Primary Weapons CQB comp and a KAK Industry Super Sig Tube. Both guns have Vortex Optics…optics.